Can keep them from the ways of sin. An usher rounded up the boys and took them to the vestry where they faced Jowett. Therefore sprang there even of one, and him as good as dead, [so many] as the stars of the sky in multitude, and as the sand which is by the sea shore innumerable. Believers not only receive the training itself but also the benefits of the training! God does not discipline you without purpose. They must obey the training rules and submit to the plans of their coaches and trainers. Plead with God for unreached peoples. Consider the following testimony by C. H. Spurgeon: I am afraid that all the grace I have got out of my comfortable and easy times and happy hours might almost lie on a penny. Now, I think that is what we want to say to professing Christians--if you build for time you will be disappointed. That means faith--waiting for God to accomplish His purposes!". We lose our proud judgmental spirit and grow in sympathy. ), if necessary (WHY? That hardship can actually be a blessing—or "a severe mercy," to recall Sheldon Vanauken's book of that title—is a profoundly Christian insight seldom heard these days, even from the clergy, who so often seem preoccupied with being "pastoral" or superficially popular. But this only comes when we truly realize that it is the Father's love which has afflicted us. The word is from gumnazo, from which comes our gymnastics. Affliction only makes the sin rise to the surface. We arrogantly think, “If they would just get it together [like me! If so, look ahead to the fruit He will bring out of this difficulty. In Isa 28:23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28, we read the prophet's "poetic parable," written to help the people of Israel understand how God works and what He intended to accomplish in their lives through tough times. That word was the summing up of all that there was to say of affliction. Sharp afflictions are to the soul, as a soaking rain to the house; we do not know that there are holes in the roof until the shower comes—but then we see it drop down here and there. Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: Accounting that God [was] able to raise [him] up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. If his dark nights are as bright as the world’s days, what shall his days be? But it's best known by hikers and fishermen for its vicious spines. The objection that chastening is grievous is here anticipated and answered. Both terms mean godliness or conformity to Jesus Christ, who is the embodiment of godliness (Ro 8:29-note). But even his worst things are “afterward” good things, harsh ploughings yielding joyful harvests. In purple distance fair. He saw this as a case of parents obeying their children rather than "Children, obey your parents" (Eph 6:1). Wuest: In fact, all discipline, correction, and guidance for the time being does not seem to be joyous but grievous; yet afterward it yields a return of the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those who have been exercised by it. Ultimately Lewis' experienced joy when he discovered that Jesus was the wellspring of all joy. But this does not come at once. 11 No discipline is fun while it lasts, but it seems painful at the time. It also signifies "to seem, be accounted, reputed." I remember well when my brother and I collected some sap from our maple trees in the back yard. Divine trust does not ignore human nature. "Herein is my Father glorified, that you bear much fruit; so shall you be my disciples." Trained is in the perfect tense indicating a past completed action with ongoing effect and thus speaks of the permanence of their state of training. Finally, he managed to build a rough hut and put his few articles in that hut. It might even work the other way and be hurtful, for if those very gentle blows were enough, with one or two soft chiding words, to express parental hatred of sin, the child would surely think that the parent only played with it and that disobedience was a trifle. For gloomy days and fruitless years Righteousness and peace always go together. Hebrews 12:11 New International Version - UK (NIVUK). What a challenge for anyone plagued by fear! (Whittier). Wailing minors, discord strong; But these exercises are meant to quicken longing desires after Christ, and eventually make him very precious. —David C. McCasland (Our Daily Bread, Copyright RBC Ministries, Grand Rapids, MI. Grant that I may never fail Thy hand to see, 11 No discipline seems pleasant at the time, but painful. They prove that we have faith; by faith we are justified; and, being justified, "we have peace with God, through Jesus Christ." As Hezekiah said, "O Lord, by these things men live, and in all these things is the life of my spirit." And because God loves us as His children, He never skimps on our spiritual training. He seeks to glorify God in everything. Without them, water and food are not desired; so, without exercises, Christ, the Water and Bread of life, is not desired nor longed for. It’s not until we submit to the reproofs and surrender to the discipline that we will begin the process of yielded repentance that leads to freedom and purity. (2Co 6:10) When the hurricane is sweeping the ocean into mountain-high waves, down in the deep waters all is serene and quiet—the disturbance is only on the surface. Galatians 5:22, 23. God sends trials not to impair us but to improve us. By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come. it enables him to bear the pain without murmuring, and (2.) Bat rather be healed. He seeks to glorify God in everything. Many parents are afraid to do what they know is best for their youngsters. There is equal danger of overrating our afflictions. Through faith also Sara herself received strength to conceive seed, and was delivered of a child when she was past age, because she judged him faithful who had promised. Young's Literal: and all chastening for the present, indeed, doth not seem to be of joy, but of sorrow, yet afterward the peaceable fruit of righteousness to those exercised through it -- it doth yield. A W Pink observes: It is called the "peaceable fruit" because it issues in the taming of our wild spirits, the quieting of our restless hearts, the more firm anchoring of our souls. True holiness or righteousness is not just external, but begins at the heart or thought level. Think carefully—and surrender and repent. And then has rolled up a dark cloud, from which the forked lightning has gleamed, while the pealing thunder has made the ground to tremble. An athlete would strip before his trainer, who would determine which muscles the athlete needed to develop. In times of trouble we pray feelingly and fervently. He knows that what his eye catches is only the surface, what his finger touches is only the exterior, but what his heart believes is the depth, the substance, the reality. | God's loving hand of discipline When He does, we have to trust that He is our loving Father who has our good in view. Nothing warns them when water is too hot or a hammer handle is splintered. And so light arises upon the command, Count it all joy when ye fall into manifold temptations. A few weeks later, the four boys gave a concert with Mrs Jowett accompanying them on the piano. And here most are, who are not exercised--resting in "a name to live," and in the doctrine without the experience. There is often a severity, a grievousness in the chastisements of our covenant God, which it is important and essential for the end for which they were sent, not to overlook. Seem blended in a psalm, Never did so great a mind produce so little. May God put you in the number of His saved family, and then if He chastens you, I ask whether you will not think His rod light when compared with the sword that you deserve to have smitten you dead. He has not forgotten me—has not given me up—He is still gracious to me.” And so the Christian begins to think about heaven, “For,” says he, “this is the place of work, that is the place of rest; this is the place of sorrow, that is the place of joy; here is defeat, there is triumph; here is shame, there glory; here it is being despised, there it is being honored; here it is the hiding of my Father’s face, there it is the glory of his presence; here it is absence in the body, there it is presence with the Lord; here weeping, and groaning, and sighing, there the song of triumph; here death—death to my friends and death to myself—there the happy union of immortal spirits in immortality.” So he learns to sing not of the seeming but of the “but later,” with sweet hope, as his harp of many golden strings. A better student? (NLT - Tyndale House), Phillips: Yet when it is all over we can see that is has quietly produced the fruit of real goodness in the characters of those who have accepted it in the right spirit. We are not to look for the proper fruits of affliction while we are suffering, but afterwards. What can mere man do to me? A rubber band is made to stretch. At the very first meeting, four boys with penny whistles upset the meeting by playing tunes while Jowett was speaking. - D L Moody - Heaven ( a wonderful little book to encourage your soul), Morning and evening : Daily readings (May 18 PM) - How happy are tried Christians, afterwards. In the present passage, the verb seems hints that there is a kind of residual joy of hope that hangs on beneath the cloud, but the tears and the sighs and the groans are so many that it looks like sorrow has the upper hand - at least for a season. I do not know if Muggeridge was truly converted (Ed: As I have read some of Muggeridge's writings one wonders - aren't we glad Jesus is the final Judge! Thanks to the efforts of Nancy and the rescue worker, the bird was free to recover from its injured leg. These all died in faith, not having received the promises, but having seen them afar off, and were persuaded of [them,] and embraced [them,] and confessed that they were strangers and pilgrims on the earth. In Hebrews 12, we read that our heavenly Father loves us too dearly to let us remain immature. He wants to feel us ceasing to struggle and to repentantly yield to His loving work. By nature, we’re all too focused on this life, in spite of the fact that life is a vapor (Jas 4:14). But he also frequently takes the offender through an intense 90-minute session designed to force the student to come to grips with his destructive behavior. It grows slowly but surely in our lives as we submit to God’s discipline. Is there anyone among my readers who feels that his life is not what it should be, whom the cares and troubles of this life have hindered, and who feels half hopeless as to the possibility of running the race as Jesus the Leader would have--let him learn from this word what he needs. Ae2tdPwUPEZBhJZJ51xCziitqpVrDrxeaJE78CHGjTRmuxaAen3E4j14kwc, (c) Abarim Publications — first published on 2017-07-11; last updated on 2020-10-19, — free, online interlinear (Greek/English), word by word translation and Greek grammar parsing codes, , translated word by word and with Greek grammar parsing codes,, The Passion of the Christ and the Theory of Everything, The Fate of Our World: The Bible, AI and Cryptocurrency. Secular dictionaries define joy as the emotion evoked by well-being, success, or good fortune or the emotion evoked by the prospect of possessing what one desires. I shall not be afraid. Where you find darkness, we have light, and where you have light, we have the brilliance of the sun. Should not every Christian desire to be as fruitful as possible, so as best to prove his discipleship and glorify God? When, why, and how does the Lord God discipline us when we sin? There, God in His grace can cause His beauty to be seen in you. And so light arises upon the command, Count it all joy when ye fall into manifold temptations. "Now the tuning and the tension, I have never known a Christian who was not benefited by afflictions; I have seen none who was not able to say that his trials produced some happy effect on his religious character, and on his real happiness in life. Water in a glass looks clear—but set it on the fire, and the scum boils up. It is easier to blame others for the consequences of our sin than it is to admit that God is trying to reach us and free us from our faults. If I did not feel the cross, if I was not conscious of the burden, if the wound were not painful, I should never take it to the mercy-seat, there to seek all needed grace, support, and strength. No, naturally I rebel against Him, and I say, “Who are you that you should smite me this way, and what have I done that I should be tormented by you?” To kiss the hand that smites is something more than nature; it is grace. That which is lame be not put out of joint, but rather be healed. But now they desire a better [country,] that is, an heavenly: wherefore God is not ashamed to be called their God: for he hath prepared for them a city. No chastening seems pleasant at the time, "Yet when it is all over we can see that it has quietly produced the fruit of real goodness in the characters of those who have accepted it in the right spirit" (He 12:11 Phillips).—David H. Roper (Ibid), For all the heartaches and the tears, Where do you get comfort from? Who would not bear the present cross for the crown which cometh afterwards? Who has not rejoiced in clear shinings after rain? Sorrowful (3077)(lupe - see related verb lupeo) refers to sadness, grief, grievous, heaviness, sorrow. Rather than resisting God's correction, we can yield to Him, confident that His goal is our spiritual growth. Those rugged precipices, those pointed rocks, that threatening peak, are now invested with a soft and stainless robe; sublimity is arrayed in beauty; and awe has been forgotten in delight. —Anon. He has his best things last, and he therefore in this world receives his worst things first. ], they would avoid all these problems!” Then God sends affliction to us. The main point of Heb 12:4–11 is to explain why the readers must endure the disciplinary/educative sufferings which God allows them to experience. But the books were never composed outside of Coleridge's mind, because he would not face the discipline of sitting down to write them out. Does this stroke come from His heart? No one likes it, but we all need it. May the Spirit of God grant us all "exercised" hearts, so that we shall daily search ourselves, examine our ways, and be stripped of all that is displeasing to Him. When I saw him recently, he asked me, "What do you do when God doesn't say yes—doesn't give it, doesn't make it happen?" It is that feeling of inner gladness, delight or rejoicing. Be healed. • Discipline proves that God is our Father and we are his children! Sometimes we even think it's ruining us. All God's testings have a purpose— If the soil could talk, it might have whined, "Who needs this painful plowing?" It always feels like it's going against the grain. The Lord had to show Peter that his heart was just as prone to sin as everyone else’s heart. So he finds all his joy in the “but later” (Heb 12:11). (Isa 32:17NIV). They hinder us in our passage to heaven. That interpretation seems very reasonable when compared with another passage that speaks of "spiritual training" (using same verb gumnazo as Heb 12:11). As we sense the strength of God's everlasting arms beneath us (Dt 33:27), we can stroll through life with confidence, holding the hand of our unseen Companion. "All chastening seemeth for the present to be not joyous but grievous; yet afterward it yieldeth peaceable fruit unto them that have been exercised thereby, ." fruits "of righteousness." When I finally hit rock bottom, the "rock" on which I fell was Jesus Christ. Like fruit it may appear at first sour, crabbed, and unpalatable; but it will be at last like the ruddy peach or the golden orange. • Though there is pain now, later it produces a harvest of righteousness and peace! Murray comments that regarding peaceful fruit of righteousness "the light of eternity and its reward shines on the least as on the greatest of our trials, and makes each one the seed of an everlasting harvest, of which we pluck the fruits even here. Many young adults, looking back, have said that without the director's confrontation they would have ended up in jail. But have nothing to do with (present imperative - continually reject) worldly fables ("reject those myths" = NET) fit only for old women. —D. If so, it is not wrong to ask the Father to remove it, if it’s His will, and to take steps to resolve the problem. not smooth sailing. When heavy rains finally come, the little seeds are carried away in a flash flood. Oh, blessed “afterward!” Who would not be a Christian? He does not get any particular joy out of it, but He does it because you and I need it. But how rapturous and never-ending the Hallelujah song "Afterwards! The fires of affliction and trial may be painful for a time, but afterward they will result in great blessing and reward (He 12:11). Can you think of a reproof in your life? NAS =- afterward(4), afterwards(1), last(1), later(3). (The Holiest of All - Yet Afterward). Affliction is a means to purify us. What! Trials are a fact of life, but how we respond to them is our choice. Higher honour have none of God's servants than this one, unwelcome and rejected though it so often be. Isaiah said that the farmer is taught by God to work in measured and well-timed ways, handling delicate crops with care and others more vigorously, but always with a sure harvest in view. (F. 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Still more delightful when we can look back at the warfare and the storm, not as injuries but as blessings; when, however fierce the battle and wild the storm, we can bless God for it all, and testify, That care and trial seem at last, (Amplified Bible - Lockman), NLT: No discipline is enjoyable while it is happening--it is painful! Notice that the "pay back" for disciplining one's self for godliness is not only in this present life but also in the life to come. Hebrews 12:11: Hebrews 12: Hebrews 12:13. The Lord burdened Paul excessively, beyond his strength, so that he despaired even of life. His tough love is the making of us.— Joanie Yoder (Ibid). Scattered bloom and bleeding shoot: All rights reserved). How are you tending your garden? God’s discipline is not easy or pleasant. Are you seeking to learn and grow in holiness through the trial? Missionary and artist Lilias Trotter wrote, "The whole year round the thorn has been hardening and sharpening. Spurgeon - A man takes a mass of metal. Suddenly, we have more compassion for those who suffer. If we refuse to learn the lesson God desires to teach us, it is almost certain that He will send another round of discipline until we finally acquiesce. 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It means to regard something as presumably true, without particular certainty. Sometimes we are unaware of our sins or shortcomings until God brings some trial that exposes them. 1. May the LORD fulfill all your petitions." (Leighton.). The richer the cluster that grows. These two expressions contain the great contrast between time and eternity, of the visible and the invisible, of sorrow and of joy, of sense and of faith, of backsliding and of progress to perfection. The Making Of Us - When my husband was a child, his mother sometimes scolded and disciplined him for disobeying her. The director of discipline can expel a student immediately. ", She could see that the bird was likely to come to grief and disappointment. Octavius Winslow - Devotional - AUGUST 30. Isaiah 26:16. Jonah was asleep in the ship—but at prayer in the whale's belly. A young pastor friend has... been through the trial of his life. 1 But later it produces the fruit of peace and righteousness 2 for those trained by it. Instead of being at all serviceable, would it not be utterly useless? And even so the joy of eternity can keep a soul in perfect peace amid abounding afflictions. We find light enough in our hearts in the depth of darkness. But afterward there will be a quiet harvest of right living for those who are trained in this way. The next step is up to him. But what does the worldly man do when he loses his wife, when his children are taken away, when his health departs and he himself is near death? When it stretches, it is enlarged; it becomes tense and dynamic, and it does what it was made to do. He may do so directly (1 Corinthians 11:29-32), or He may allow life's hardships to melt us, mold us, and make us more like Jesus. What Nancy did not realize was that herons are very unpredictable in nature and, when cornered, will attack whatever is nearest. But the abundant life that God intends for His people isn't trouble-free. All I can say is, I wonder every day that there are not more suicides, considering the troubles of this life, and how few there are who have the comforts of religion. --Anon. If God chastens me, can I love Him for that? We are not to forget, not to despise, not to faint (Heb 12:5), but we are to endure (Heb 12:7), and to be in subjection (Heb 12:9). AFTERWARDS IT YIELDS THE PEACEFUL FRUIT OF RIGHTEOUSNESS: de karpon eirenikon tois di autes gegumnasmenois (RPPMPD) apodidosin (3SPAI) dikaiosunes: De Haan says "The important key word in this verse is afterwards. Sally winked at Hendricks. Discipline seems-to our limited, time-bound perspective-not to be joyful, but sorrowful. Tamar’s brother, Absalom, murdered Amnon and later led a rebellion against David. If we do not meet them in our younger days, we shall certainly have them in the decline of life. A farmer is portrayed skillfully plowing the ground, planting his crops, and threshing the harvest. As loving parents, dare we have less long-term vision than our heavenly Father has? The world's definition of joy is therefore virtually synonymous with the definition of happiness, for both "emotions" are dependent on what "happens". God also disciplines and trains His erring sons and daughters. Trial comes to him and says, “Your hope is dry.” “My hope is not dry,” he says. Discipline (3809) (paideia from país = child; verb paideuo) means to provide instruction, with the intent of forming proper habits of behavior, of providing guidance for responsible living, of rearing and guiding a child toward maturity. Its richness, flavor, and color depend on many factors: the tree from which the sap is drawn, the time it is collected, the existing weather conditions, and the skill of the one who controls the boiling and filtering process. Hebrews 12:11. For by it the elders obtained a good report. Hebrews 12:11 • Hebrews 12:11 NIV • Hebrews 12:11 NLT • Hebrews 12:11 ESV • Hebrews 12:11 NASB • Hebrews 12:11 KJV • Hebrews 12:11 Commentaries • Hebrews 12:11 Bible Apps • Hebrews 12:11 Biblia Paralela • Hebrews 12:11 Chinese Bible • Hebrews 12:11 French Bible • Hebrews 12:11 German Bible Interlinear Bible Bible Hub 6:10), though we are sorrowful, we are yet always rejoicing, knowing that God is for us and that He is working all our trials together for our good (Rom. So it is with the suffering that accompanies God's chastening. Discipline has to do with the overall training of children, including punishment. —Bonaventure, Sometimes your medicine bottle has on it, "Shake well before using." A better athlete? The phrase means, “the peaceful fruit that consists in righteousness.” “Righteousness” (Heb 12:11) is synonymous with “holiness” (Heb 12:10). God's hand of discipline is a hand of love. Fertilize with nutrients (Take in the pure Word like a new born babe - 1Pe 2:2-note, Mt 4:4). This allows them to lie dormant on the sand for several seasons until conditions are right for growth. Prosperity and worldly comfort, are what all naturally desire—but losses and crosses are far better for us—if they lead us to Christ. Wars 3.73), Paul uses gymnazo in his first epistle to Timothy drawing on the athletic metaphor to exhort his young disciple to…, "have nothing to do with (continually refuse, shun, reject) worldly (profane in contrast to sacred, void of piety, opposite of holy that which is set apart to God) fables (myths) fit only for old women. Yet afterward. But, sometimes, He says, “My grace is sufficient for you.” (2Co 12:9-note). How often does He, in the wisdom and sovereignty of His dealings, adopt this method! But God's discipline is the very thing that will save us from the ruin of our selfish, stubborn ways. 8:29). Not naturally. Spurgeon - Let me ask those who are afflicted and have no religion where they get their comfort from. grievous--Greek, "matter of joy . God promises a safe landing, Steven Cole - As an old man looking back on his life, the late Malcolm Muggeridge observed, Contrary to what might be expected, I look back on experiences that at the time seemed especially desolating and painful with particular satisfaction. By faith Moses, when he was born, was hid three months of his parents, because they saw [he was] a proper child; and they were not afraid of the king's commandment. Let Him have His way in your life even if, at the moment, it’s hard to bear. Finally. You cannot have true righteousness without peace, or true peace without righteousness. —M. The Christian often learns his best lessons about heaven by contrast. ANOTHER PLACE, ANOTHER TIME, THE SAME GOD - Etty Hillesum was a young Jewish woman living in Amsterdam in 1942. ", Even our loving heavenly Father's correction is painful, yet afterward (perhaps years later) "it yields the peaceable fruit of righteousness in those who have been trained by it" (Hebrews 12:11). All discipline seems difficult for the present. NAS = discipline(1), trained(3). You cannot have true righteousness without peace, or true peace without righteousness. God uses our times of struggle to help us grow and make us more holy (He 12:10, 11). Louw-Nida says it conveys the thought of "freedom from anxiety and inner turmoil." He was only feeling relief at the thought of getting away from a woman who, I admit, was not pleasant to live with! ILLUSTRATION - No professional football team that plays its home games in a domed stadium with artificial turf has ever won the Super Bowl. By faith Abraham, when he was called to go out into a place which he should after receive for an inheritance, obeyed; and he went out, not knowing whither he went. Perplexing doubts about the mysteries of Providence are lost in the calm trustfulness of love. But after his funeral, as I was consoling his wife, her former bounded up with a silly grin on his face and said, “Praise the Lord, Scott’s in glory now!” I felt like punching him! This is why we must keep our eyes on Jesus (Heb 12:2-note, Heb 12:3-note) and keep running (Heb 12:1-note)! Of the Hallelujah song. But while religion does not render him insensible to suffering, it does two things—(1.) Insincere professors are no real part of the tree, but as branches tied on; not to be pruned, but cut off, unless they repent. 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